[ABANDONED] J-Link v11 not working, but v8 is

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  • [ABANDONED] J-Link v11 not working, but v8 is

    Hello,
    i upgraded form the J-Link EDU v8 to the v11 a few months ago. Debugging my prior project (STM32L4P5CE) worked (and still works) just fine with the v11.
    Trying the same with a STM32F301K6 (with or without opt. bytes) however does not work. I tried using VSCode+Cortex-Debug and also STM-CubeIDE. Both show the same behavior: The v8 version works, the v11 does not.
    When using J-Link-Commander directly i can connect to the chip with the v11 and it identifies the Cortex-M4 but it is somewhat inconsistent. Sometimes it has problems connecting in general, other times it is not able to see all the entries in the "CoreSight components"-category, the v11 also sometimes can not connect to the DAP initially while the v8 can.

    I tried:
    • uninstalling and reinstalling the entire Software-Package (now v7.88b)
    • updating the J-Link firmware
    • reassining the Segger drivers
    • Switching the entire PC-sided-system from Win11 to Ubuntu, also changing the hardware
    • checked every J-Link configuration that i could find in the Wiki and the open Internet


    At this point i am more then confused:
    -The v11 Probe is not just entirely broken as it works just fine with my other MCUs.
    -The Target is also not just defective, as it works perfectly fine with my v8-Probe.

    I have attatched screenshots of the Commander-Feedback using the v8 and two different results using the v11.
    I really would appreciate some help or guidance here.

    Best regards,
    Lukas
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  • If you reduce the SWD speed to let’s say 2 MHz or even 1 MHz, does it become stable?

    I do not know the exact parameters out of my head but it is very possible that the V8 does not do exactly 4 MHz but more something in the league of 3.2 - 3.9 MHz while the V11 should be able to do the 4 MHz more exactly.

    Maybe the 4 MHz are too much for the HW design you are using and the V8 is just lucky to be somewhat slower than configured?

    Just a guess at this point…
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  • Hello again,
    so as a quick followup:

    Does the speed have an effect?
    Yes, definetely. I have to throttle the v11 down to < 800 kHz and the Commander can connect, halt, go and read mem.
    It however can neither flash the device nor debug it in VSCode&Cortex-Debug or STCubeIDE. The v8 still does that happily.

    I have also given a identical target to a friend who owns another v11. I have made sure that it is one that i tried before. It just works for him as it should.

    I have also done some more "extensive" connection testing:

    works just fine:
    -STM32L4P5CE
    -RP2040_0 (not on v8, no multidrop debugging)
    -TM4C123GH6PM
    -STM32F091RC
    -NRF52832 AA
    (i still have some more, but it seemd to me like the general setup is not at fault)

    only works on v8:
    -STM32F301K6

    The tests above were done with the same cables, so that is not an option.

    I also noticed that it seems to be getting worse. While i used to get inconsistent results on 4MHz, now i do not get any traces of a connection.

    At this point i had insufficient grounding in mind. I have reviewed the target hardware layout (done my my UNI-Project-Partner). I noticed that the debug-connector (standard 20Pin) is connected to GND by one singular teeny tiny trace. That theory is however crashed by the fact that it works fine for my friend. I also have handsoldered some more GND-Connections to the Connector (not pretty, but i am getting desperate), no change.
    Is there a possibility that this is still the problem?

    Is there any other ideas? Any help/suggestions is appreciated.

    Best regards,
    Lukas